2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals

[Dwhiz]

Please add 1 of each to my order
1-07-17 Double reverse
1-2 oz. Silver Proof
Thanks

[SirStacksALot]

Thanks CA collector. Prices seem reasonable if comparable. I'm mainly interested in both bi-metallics and both 2oz'ers though which could be curve balls price wise compared to last years types.

What's the payment regimen? Do we pay now or when the order goes in and how? Thanks.

Payment will be made to the castle treasury via PayPal and the funds will be sent to Daniel Carr once they are collected.  I will use a spreadsheet to calculate the prices, and I hope to start on that soon.  It will still be a little while before payment is made.  The prices will vary depending on how many medals are made.  This year we will have to pay for the design, sculpting, and cutting of 2 dies for each size medal, so the cost will be a little higher. That said there are quite a bit more orders this year, so it might even out.

[CascadeChris]

Thanks for the info. Count me in for 1 each of both bi-metalic's, 1 each of both 2oz, 1x silver eagle overstrike & 1x Ike overstrike.  Might change up or down when pricing in for comes out though If that's ok.

[SirStacksALot]

Here is an updated order list 

[DigitalNick]

I would like to order 1 of each of this years 2017 KOTCT Anniversary Medals.

[Usarok]

Please add one each of the 50mm medals to my order. Thanks!

[SirStacksALot]

Here is an updated list. 

I recently went to the local coin store in my area to buy some more 2007 american eagles for overstrikes.  They usually have at least a few tubes of most years, and still sell them at $4 over spot.  Unfortunately they told me that 2007 is a hard year to get in nice condition for some reason.  I was able to buy 15 nice ones without any dings or gouges that will work well for overstrikes.  I looked into ampex but they are quite a bit more expensive, and there is a risk of getting some that are dinged or scratched.  We were getting very close to a total of 40 silver eagle overstrikes on the list, which seems like it would be more than I could get a hold of without accruing quite a bit of shipping cost and higher prices.  For now, unless I can figure something else out, there will be a limit of 1-2007 eagle overstrike per member.  I still have to find a few more for our current order, but it should work out.

[CA Collector]

...For now, unless I can figure something else out, there will be a limit of 1-2007 eagle overstrike per member...

Maybe offer a 2017 eagle overstrike?

[MattTheRiley]

I may be able to source 2007 ASEs I'll ask around.

[SirStacksALot]

...For now, unless I can figure something else out, there will be a limit of 1-2007 eagle overstrike per member...

Maybe offer a 2017 eagle overstrike?

I did consider 2017 silver eagle overstrikes, but with the price being the same for 2007 silver eagles I thought it would be pretty cool to overstrike 2007s since it is our 10th anniversary.  We will see what Matt comes up with, and I will also be looking for some more nice 2007s at a good price.

[Eringobraugh]

If its not too late,Id like to order a Bimetal copper Silver proof medal

[Bigjpst]

Please add 2 of each of the bi metal medals to my order
Thanks

[SirStacksALot]

Here is an updated order list. Daniel answered quite a few pricing questions for us, and I will be working on the price calculations this week.  I will keep everyone posted

[CascadeChris]

Awesome. Thanks Stacks. Here's to hoping the ones I chose will be somewhat reasonable lol

[SirStacksALot]

Here are the current lists with the current lists. The prices are still going to change a little bit but they should be pretty close to the listed numbers. 

[MattTheRiley]

I found a deal on 2 rolls of 2007 ASEs, Jim.

I think they are sealed rolls from a monster box.  I'll PM you the details.

[Nk1nk]

I feel like part of this thread is missing, I know there was some site problems recently and I find it strange there has not been an update here for awhile, I'm pretty sure there was at least nine pages of comments and now just 8. Anybody else notice this?

[BruceS]

I know they were doing some site maintenance, last week I believe.

[SirStacksALot]

I feel like part of this thread is missing, I know there was some site problems recently and I find it strange there has not been an update here for awhile, I'm pretty sure there was at least nine pages of comments and now just 8. Anybody else notice this?

You are correct, part of this thread is missing.  When the site went down, some of the posts were lost on the forum.  I do still have the order information. Thank you to everyone who has sent their information so far.  Things are still on track, and it looks like most of the members have their orders in.  If you are thinking about changing your order please do so soon, so the price calculations will be right before I set the final prices.  Matt has also been able to locate 2 rolls of 2007 silver eagles for overstrikes.  I will change the order numbers for those back to where they were before there was a limit of 1 per person.  If you would like more than 1 silver eagle overstrike, and you would like to add more, please let me know.

[CA Collector]

...If you would like more than 1 silver eagle overstrike, and you would like to add more, please let me know.

Please adjust my order:

-- Add one more silver eagle overstrike
-- Delete the antique silver 39 mm

Thanks.

[HOOT Owl]

Adjust mine also please.

-- Add a Silver Eagle Overstrike
-- Delete the 2 Double Reverses


Thanks Jim

[voyageur]

Please add one (1) additional 2007 Silver Eagle overstrike to my order. Thanks for all of your great work on the 2017 10th Anniversary issue !

[MattTheRiley]

I'd like a 2nd overstrike as well.

[78saen]

Please put me down for a second Silver eagle overstrike. Thank you! 

[SirStacksALot]

Here are the updated spreadsheets.  If you asked for more than 1 silver eagle overstrike before a limit of 1 was made, your order has been changed back to the original amount of silver eagle overstrikes. 

I still need to verify a few orders, before calculating the final cost of the medals.

[CascadeChris]

Hey stacks, what's the word on getting to see a mock up first; Or will the design  be a total mailbox surprise?

[SirStacksALot]

Daniel usually posts some CAD pictures of the design before he cuts the dies.  I doubt we will see the design before we collect the funds and send them off to the moonlight mint.  It is probably not the way most clubs have medals made, and it takes a while for the process to play out, but I'm sure it will be worth the wait.  We are pretty lucky that Daniel does these for us, and we don't rush the process.  We might have a chance to add to our order after we see the design, but that is not a sure thing.

[Kittlecoins]

Isn't the plan for the medal to look like the 2007 KOTCT design which can be seen in the upper right corner of the forum page?

Maybe I missed something, but if that's the case not sure we need to see anything from Dan, right?

[CascadeChris]

That's what I heard Mike. Its gonna be the 2007 design but reworked or added to or something along those lines

[Work4coins]

Can I still place an order for the 2017 KOTCT medals?  Thanks! Frank

[SirStacksALot]

Frank, you can still order if you do it soon.  Just pm the information at the top of the site to me along with what you would like. 

As far as the design goes, it will be based on the 2007 design.  The amount that it will change will be up to Daniel Carr

[HOOT Owl]

Starting to get excited...

[Work4coins]

PM sent!  Thank you

[CascadeChris]

PM sent Stacks

[SirStacksALot]

After quite a bit of number crunching, and order changes over the past week, below is the final cost for each type of medal if silver spot price stays under $17.  Silver has been on quite a ride the past month, and currently sits at $15.96.  This does give us a little leeway if the price jumps, but not much.  If the price does break $17 when Daniel purchases the silver and lets us know the price, each knight will have to make up the difference for each ounce of silver in their order.
Payment from each knight will be made to the treasury, and leftover funds after payment is made to Daniel Carr will stay with the treasury. 

I only have one new member that I still need information from.  If anyone knows Oih82w8 please ask him to contact me.

I will send an email with your order list and payment instructions as soon as I get them together.

[DigitalNick]

"PM" SENT SIRStacksALot

[TwoShadows]

Very good to see the Castle looking like new and so many Knights are still here. Thank you for lowering the drawbridge one more time for me!

[Humpybong]

Very good to see the Castle looking like new and so many Knights are still here. Thank you for lowering the drawbridge one more time for me!

Welcome back after your long quest. 
All 2017 medals can still be ordered as order with Daniel Carr not finalised as yet.  See order listing.

[SirStacksALot]

Quick Update:

I was hoping to get the payment information out this weekend, but it didn't happen.  I have 95% of the information done,  you should receive an email from me in the next few days.

[TwoShadows]

The various designs we used through the years all told a story, at least at that time, but none of them are as classy as the 2008. Daniels 2008 design was in a class all its own and a tribute to the lady collectors! Still my favorite so far.

[Kena]

Any more news about the 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals?

[SirStacksALot]

I have received one more check this week, and should be able to deposit it tomorrow.  It will be enough to make the final payment to Daniel Carr.  Once it clears (probably mid next week), I will send the final payment, and ask for an update via email.  Hopefully Daniel has started to work on our medals already. 

There are still 2 members that have not repaid after the PayPal refund.  I may have to pay for most of the shipping out of my pocket, and try to sell the medals from the two unpaid orders to recover the funds.  It is just way too late with all the calculations to change the order numbers now.  Hopefully both members will end up following through with the orders and save me a lot more hassle.

I will keep everyone posted as I hear more. 

[Humpybong]

Hi Jim....you do not need to pay for postage out of your own pocket...let me know how much you need and I will pay.

Can always recoup later.

[voyageur]

Will gladly make a donation to the Treasury to help defray shipping expenses. Selling any additional medals from orders that remain unpaid should not be difficult.

[Felinfoel]

> Will gladly make a donation to the Treasury to help defray shipping expenses.

Same here.

I can also pay for the unpaid medals directly, simply add them to my order.

[SirStacksALot]

I appreciate the offers, I don't think it will be too much of an issue.  If they don't pay by the time they are ready to ship, I will just post what is available here.  I have a feeling they will pay by the time the medals come. I just want everyone to know there won't be a shipping delay if the two orders fall through.

[Pocketcoins]

Now help is here when you need it. Just let us know.

[Work4coins]

SirStacksALot, I am happy to help out with any shipping expenses and also buying any unpaid medals.  Thank you for all your help and dedication with this project!

[HOOT Owl]

Let me know if I can help in any way........and I can't wait to see what Dan comes up with.

[DigitalNick]

I am interested in purchasing unpaid 2017 10th Anniversary medals.
Please let me know if any become available.

[MattTheRiley]

Any news on the design process?

Thanks!

[SirStacksALot]

I sent an email to Daniel yesterday asking for an update.  I will post here as soon as I hear something.

[MattTheRiley]

Eagerly awaiting news!  Thanks for your hard work, Jim!

[SirStacksALot]

I just received an email response from Daniel so here it is:

"As always seems to be the case, I've been occupied with too many things to do and not enough time.

But I've finally got everything out of the way that was in front of the 2017 KotCT project.

So I have actually started doing the sculpting work. I don't have anything to show yet, but soon after Thanksgiving I hope to."

[MattTheRiley]

Awesome!!!!!!

[Dwhiz]

I hope we see them by Easter

[MattTheRiley]

I hope to see some design ideas from Dan soon!  I am excited!

[D. Carr]

Greetings Knights,

I have re-sculpted the King from 2007. The details have been enhanced and there has been some overall uncluttering of the design. I liked the globes but they were redundant since the 2008 reverse started using them. So I removed them from the obverse. I like the simpler (cleaner) layout. I have also re-sculpted portions of the reverse and, although it doesn't look a lot different, I have done some things to make it easier to strike. Here are the current renderings:

[Mackinac]

I like it, one suggestion I have is, shouldn't the horse be wearing armor too? Thoughts...

[Humpybong]

Yep...you got it.....does it need to mention our 10th Anniversary 2007-2017

[MattTheRiley]

I agree with the need for the horse to have some armor as well.  Also, it definitely should mention 2007-2017 10th Anniversary or something. Great job so far Dan!

[SirStacksALot]

Nice Job Daniel, I agree that the horse would look good with armor.   I also agree the date should be written 2007-2017.  Thanks for posting the renderings. 

[CA Collector]

...it definitely should mention 2007-2017 10th Anniversary or something. Great job so far Dan!

Generally I'm not a fan of dual-dates.

Instead, maybe an "10th Anniversary" edge inscription?

[Dwhiz]

Armor on the horse for sure. On the reverse, the top scroll 10th Anniversary insted of repeating "Knights of the Coin Table" as that is already on the obverse.

[D. Carr]

>>> Armor on the horse for sure. On the reverse, the top scroll 10th Anniversary insted of repeating "Knights of the Coin Table" as that is already on the obverse.

Or the other way around ?
I think any "10th Anniversary" reference should be on the obverse since the reverse die will be used for subsequent years ?

[Merlin]

Agree......sounds good to me.

Can hardly wait to have medals in my hand.

[Humpybong]

Agree......sounds good to me as well.

[SirStacksALot]

I agree, all 10th Anniversary references should be on the obverse so we can use the same reverse die again.  I like the idea of 10th Anniversary in the top banner.  Depending on how the letters fit in the banner it could say:

"10th Anniversary - Knights of the Coin Table"

"10th Anniversary 2007-2017"

"10th Anniversary Est. 2007"

"10th Anniversary Estd 2007"

"10th Anniversary - KotCT"

"Knights of the Coin Table Est. 2007"

or just  "10th Anniversary"

I think the best wording would depend on how it looks with the spacing when placed in the banner.  Maybe it will be more apparent what will look the best if Daniel just tries a few options in the banner.

[Dwhiz]

maybe  just below the sword 2017 on the right side and even with 2017 on the left side 2007. Just a thought.

                                         

[SirStacksALot]

Just a personal preference, but I like the spot that 2017 is at in the original picture.  I think 2017 on the left by itself balances out the sword on the right.

[HOOT Owl]

I like it.....

[HOOT Owl]

I agree, all 10th Anniversary references should be on the obverse so we can use the same reverse die again.  I like the idea of 10th Anniversary in the top banner.  Depending on how the letters fit in the banner it could say:

"10th Anniversary - Knights of the Coin Table"

"10th Anniversary 2007-2017"

"10th Anniversary Est. 2007"

"10th Anniversary Estd 2007"

"10th Anniversary - KotCT"

"Knights of the Coin Table Est. 2007"

or just  "10th Anniversary"

I think the best wording would depend on how it looks with the spacing when placed in the banner.  Maybe it will be more apparent what will look the best if Daniel just tries a few options in the banner.

I agree, should be in the banner, good idea.

[HOOT Owl]

Oh yeah...

[AnotherKnight]

I think on the globe where australia is it should be rotated around to put us smack bang in the middle..or at least moved so it shows the east coast as that's where all the really really important people are..isn't that right Steve  LMAO

[D. Carr]

Ok, here is horse armor and banner text change (and "DC" added):

[D. Carr]

Here is what it could look like as bi-metallic (silver center and brass ring):

[Triggersmob]

I think on the globe where australia is it should be rotated around to put us smack bang in the middle..or at least moved so it shows the east coast as that's where all the really really important people are..isn't that right Steve  LMAO

No, looks good just as it is I think.

[Triggersmob]

Looking good Daniel.

[AnotherKnight]

Yes I agree and think the armour makes the horse look so much better.

  Yeah you would say that but then what would you know STEVE    LOL. All good mate I'm just stirring..yeah something different for me I know 

[SirStacksALot]

The armor on the horse looks amazing  .  I think the main design looks perfect with the Tenth Anniversary scrolled on the banner. Great job Daniel.

As far as the outside ring goes, I think it would look a lot better, and match the theme a lot more if we go with the original idea of alternating Shields and Swords around the medal.  We could use the coat of arms of the 12 knights of the round table like the ones in the picture, and have a broadsword in between each shield to make the spacing right.

[D. Carr]

Are there any individual high-resolution images of the 12 shields available ?

[SirStacksALot]

I will look for some, I just found those with a quick Google search.

[HOOT Owl]

That is one cool medal, it looks awesome, great job Mr. Carr. Two thumbs up !!!

[TTM5]

I think the reverse design is perfect.

Agree with armor for the horse.  How about moving "2017" from 10 o'clock to 4 o'clock to balance obverse design?

How about castle in distant background?

How is Knight holding the lance or sword?

[SirStacksALot]

I'm not having much luck finding high resolution images of the 12 Shields from the knights of the round table.  Can anyone help with this? The images that I have found seem to vary a bit.

[D. Carr]

>>> I'm not having much luck finding high resolution images of the 12 Shields from the knights of the round table.  Can anyone help with this? The images that I have found seem to vary a bit.

The image quality of these is good enough for my purpose:
http://www.landoflegendslv.com/01library/05research/01con/03KA/KingArthur/kingarthur.html

[D. Carr]

Maybe this (note changes to main sword and border):

[SirStacksALot]

I love it, nice job

[Mackinac]

I think the reverse design is perfect.

Agree with armor for the horse.  How about moving "2017" from 10 o'clock to 4 o'clock to balance obverse design?

How about castle in distant background?

How is Knight holding the lance or sword?

Good eye on the sword, didn't pick that up.
Medal is starting to come together.
I wouldn't mind seeing a version with a castle in the background but it might start to make the medal too cluttered.
Great work Mr. Carr!

[Mackinac]

Oh, and I love the outer ring, great suggestion!

[Dwhiz]

They look great.......well done

[D. Carr]

With castle:

[TTM5]

I vote with castle.  It's a winner!

Thanks DC.

[Dwhiz]

They really look great!

[SirStacksALot]

The Castle looks good, and not cluttered at all.  Is it possible to put a medieval brick texture on the castle, and a different texture on the tower roofs?  Mabye some Archer windows in the Castle walls?

Thanks for taking the time to tweak our medal to take it from good to great 

[Triggersmob]

Looking good Daniel.
How come the DC signature instead of your normal logo?
Just curious.

[Mackinac]

I must say castle does work. Thumbs up!

[MattTheRiley]

I like the castle as well, especially if you incorporate Jim's suggestions.  Great job!

[SilverFan]

Great suggestions.  Medal looks awesome Daniel, especially the bimetallic version. Can't wait to get mine.

[D. Carr]

Whew, that is a lot of little rocks to sculpt: