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I like this one better too
If only those medalists would learn to render a womans face  ???
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Quote from: Paint Your Wagon on January 06, 2009, 03:02:35 PM

If only those medalists would learn to render a womans face  ???

At least you can put a bag on her face. :D

TwoShadows

Ah shoot guys, after you turn off the lights, they all look the same!!! ;D
Terry


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Quote from: Twoshadows on January 06, 2009, 04:10:34 PM
Ah shoot guys, after you turn off the lights, they all look the same!!! ;D

Ah but at least you can touch and lick the gold ones  :D
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I bought several weeks ago a coin and got it yesterday . 1.60 ounces at 0.920 purity and 1500 pieces
It is the FIRST ECU ever made 1979 by monnaie de paris of course with certificate and all
I read up some on the ECU and found out I was not aware of the controversies
The ECU started in 1979 with the nine countries depicted on the coin . The ECU only existed in electronic payments between companies .
The french were the first to coin the thing and it seems afterwards every city in France got the right to coin its own ecus and to pay with it in shops .
This controversie whether the ECU was a coin or not lasted supposedly till Belgium coined the 1987 5 ECUS in silver and said expressly it was
a circulating coin . Now they could say that but first the coin costed 10 ecus to buy and virtually nobody would have recognized a silver 5 ecus if they saw one : that is if you were crazy enough to spend a 10 ecus coin as 5 ecus purchasing power .
After that it got more complicated because they switched the name to the Euro and several countries still made ECU coins up to three years after the Euro was instituted . Then came the silver and gold Euro coins . Coins nobody ever is going to spend .
This made me realise the last gold coin meant for spending was probably before 1914 and maybe a lot earlier since the French seemingly started to hoard gold coins from 1852 onwards .
The coin is a marvel since I got it several weeks ago at 90% of melt but that is another story .

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Bought a couple of MS grade Saints, for the same price that people are paying for that 2009 garbage.  Age and experience before fallicy.

Like the nude on the front of the Ecu P-O-W

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Quote from: UkrainiChetire on January 24, 2009, 04:15:17 PM
Bought a couple of MS grade Saints, for the same price that people are paying for that 2009 garbage.  Age and experience before fallicy.

Like the nude on the front of the Ecu P-O-W

I have more MS 64 and higher ST Gaudens then I need or care for since 1999 allready . Also the Coronet type I have more then enough
Yes people are paying ridiculous amounts for coins that are less then 10 years old whereas I got a test piedfort only 99 coins minted Hercules 3 ounces for melt

I am now winding down my buying program since there are like 3 more coins in the mail I got early january and I got my eye on 3 more and then I have
pretty much all I covet apart from a Russian coin that has been eluding me for 5 years now . ( Cannot get it cheap )

If I can get out of some of my goldmines at more then 50% gain I may continue buying melters untill may 2009 . Melters I mean 100 year old 20 Francs Lucky Angels or Napoleon III or old Sovereigns or old Florins
Any exchange agent in Belgium sells those at melt plus 2 %

PS ; The top coin depicted on the reverse of the ECU is the Flemish Lion ( the walloon got a rooster like the french ) and I was amazed to find Danmark amongst the nine founding countries

PS2 ; It seems that in this first version of Europa she left her bull behind .
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I had the flu for a week so I am slowly working my way through the coins
Do not bother to look up this set in Krause cause Krause does not know it exists neither did Krause now the previous set I posted existed
When it comes to collecting special coins Krause gold coins of the World does not seem to know the world outside the US may have much intrest
Their completeness is out of this world .

The certificate of the coin says Liberty is gazing towards the Horizon for possible dangers;  ready to defend  ;D
I am willing to believe that . No serene walking Liberty or 50 pesos angel like Liberty but a ferocious Liberty the way Liberty should be

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scottishmoney

Looks like the torpedos are ready to launch!

scottishmoney

Quote from: Paint Your Wagon on January 24, 2009, 05:33:58 PM


I have more MS 64 and higher ST Gaudens then I need or care for since 1999 allready . Also the Coronet type I have more then enough


I honestly have no freaking idea how many of them I have, I lost count a long time ago, but you can never have enough, well at least I cannot have enough - so if you tire of them and want them to go to a loving home PLMK.

Paint Your Wagon

I have like three dozen offers to care for my coins in dry environments
But only Seven my pal as an ex coin dealer knows when to bath them in acetone and when to drop them in easiest and when to plunk them in acid
He is even known to have toned them with a gas bunsen burner . And all got slabbed  ;D :D ???
For the record : since I was 18 I have never ever used anything but solvents on coins . Before that I shined some with copper polish and found out other people did not like it  :(

This is the little sister of the set
Scan at 1200 dpi

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I think I got the last missing Marianne coin
This is the Dupré design made 200 years later by Monnaie de Paris of course
I took the risk of buying it on ebay Italy

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TwoShadows

Nothing like a fine set of "pointers" on a gold coin.

It is nice knowing EVERYONE knows I offer free and safe storage for all gold and silver coins, regardless of counrty of origin, right here in Indiana!!! Thats the least I can do for all my friends around the world!!! ;D
Terry


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Paint Your Wagon

It may come as a shock
But acetone will take anything off a gold coin . I mean surface fingerprints and plasticizer and drooling etc
Silver is doomed of course unless you get e*z*est
I have to get me a bottle . I got some cloudy silver and I hate cloudy silver . ( even if i got it for melt )
If I damage the coin beyond salvation I will send it to Indiana for burial
LIke in Stephen King's Pet Semetary  :D
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Brocéliande ( forest of magic) with the castle of King Arthur Camelot and Merlin guarding Excalibur still stuck in the stone
This is what dreams are made of . And someone with deep pockets ordered this from money the paris and they used their power to make it money
500 were coined in half an ounce of gold and most went to the group commissioning the coin .

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The other side has no old king or queen but the white and red dragon still in eternal battle for victory
The white dragon is symbol for England and the red Dragon is symbol for Wales
If somebody offers this for 20 euro go and take it and call the police



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Quote from: Paint Your Wagon on January 25, 2009, 10:01:58 AM
I had the flu for a week so I am slowly working my way through the coins
Do not bother to look up this set in Krause cause Krause does not know it exists neither did Krause now the previous set I posted existed
When it comes to collecting special coins Krause gold coins of the World does not seem to know the world outside the US may have much intrest
Their completeness is out of this world .

The certificate of the coin says Liberty is gazing towards the Horizon for possible dangers;  ready to defend  ;D
I am willing to believe that . No serene walking Liberty or 50 pesos angel like Liberty but a ferocious Liberty the way Liberty should be


Man that chick has got a long neck!!!  ;D And arms like Popeye!  ;D
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And, my gosh, look at the size of her feet!!! The only thing nice on her is her *** and those huge ****!  ;D
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Paint Your Wagon

This  has been  a very long time since I bought a buy it now
I had to ask to change germany n swisse n austria to European Union
But the price is right and I now got three of the four coins in the series

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=180363168064

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There used to be a time I saw korean coins every week on ebay germany
Now I had to wait 6 weeks to finish my 25000 won series
Lucky for me my wishlist is getting very short




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I got my third set from San Marino that is NOT in the Krause gold coins of the world
It is for the Environmental year 1987 consisting of a 2 scudi and a 1 scudo



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the 1 scudo is 0.1 oz scanned at 1200 dpi

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scottishmoney

De sur de la frontera, porque yo quiero este por muchos tiempos:



These things are hard to find, the Mexican government taxed the bejeebers out of them so not a lot of them leave Mexico.  Also nice to fine Mexican gold without the ubiquitous copper spotting that is prevalent on a lot of the older gold.

Paint Your Wagon

Yo tengo una tambien
25 years ago exchange agents sold them for melt
Since I liked the 37.5 g better I sold all but one of them in bad times but I still got all the 20 pesos

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This is an MS65 and the germans love those aztec calenders
I kept a few of these for 25 years



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Oh and if you talk about red spots on gold then a german university has proven it is oxydized silver contamination on  the blanks and the problem is more current the last 10 years then before because
the same patterns are made in silver and gold contaminating the gold on a bad product changeover

Germany exchanged several of their goldcoins which had red spots
The blanks came from Austria
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Actually the spotting was more on the Mexican 50 Pesos coins, especially the 1947 dated restrikes.  I don't have any of the 20$00 coins, only the 10$00 and those are very early dates, like 1906 or something - I wanted non restrike coins.  With the onzas, they are a PITA to find in the USA - have to be like finding the Fortuna bars there in Europe. The onzas and Libertads are wonderful coins, nice, large, and have that feminine design element that is all so important.

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Beautiful coins guys! Beautiful!!!  :)
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Very nice....now if I only had a few dollars to spare (and the Mrs let me spend them)

;D   ;D 
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Quote from: Kto Znaya? on October 04, 2009, 07:22:09 PM
Actually the spotting was more on the Mexican 50 Pesos coins, especially the 1947 dated restrikes.  I don't have any of the 20$00 coins, only the 10$00 and those are very early dates, like 1906 or something - I wanted non restrike coins.  With the onzas, they are a PITA to find in the USA - have to be like finding the Fortuna bars there in Europe. The onzas and Libertads are wonderful coins, nice, large, and have that feminine design element that is all so important.

Mexican coins are abundant over here but Fortuna one ounce bars I only saw two bars in 6-7 years and I bought one of the two . I do not understand this since they are made in Switzerland and only sold in the US

Now our Belgian custom people do not read the European Union Regulations but work with a shortlist of coins they will accept as taxfree and the US dollars are not on the list and neither are the Fortuna bars .
So I had a German get me an Ultra High Relief for me since their forum won the fight with DHL who wanted 15 euro for custom papers to prove the fact these were taxfree .

In summary ; in Belgium the customs sit in the postoffice of Brussels X and tax everything and the postmen collect the 18% tax and like 15 dollars for the service and everybody except the customer is happy
In Germany the carrier DHL has to declare and handle taxes and wants 15 euro for the service on top of any taxes

Once the product is in the European Union there are no longer custom problems
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1947 is my year of birth ; so as an aside I grab 1947 coins
This is an MS63



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Quote from: humpybong on October 05, 2009, 12:12:41 AM

Very nice....now if I only had a few dollars to spare (and the Mrs let me spend them)

;D   ;D 

Ah but I paid the price in diamonds to get my freedom  :D
And I have 150 % gain in 7 years in euro which is not shabby as investment : so it is not a spend but an
investment
I have a pact with my wife ; if gold ever becomes worthless she can wear it as jewellry  :)
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Quote from: Paint Your Wagon on October 05, 2009, 03:51:41 AM


Ah but I paid the price in diamonds to get my freedom  :D
And I have 150 % gain in 7 years in euro which is not shabby as investment : so it is not a spend but an
investment
I have a pact with my wife ; if gold ever becomes worthless she can wear it as jewellry  :)

Like you would ever let that happen.  I love the 50 Pesos coins, those just ooze seksay coin.

Paint Your Wagon

Quote from: Kto Znaya? on October 05, 2009, 09:49:15 AM
Quote from: Paint Your Wagon on October 05, 2009, 03:51:41 AM


Ah but I paid the price in diamonds to get my freedom  :D
And I have 150 % gain in 7 years in euro which is not shabby as investment : so it is not a spend but an
investment
I have a pact with my wife ; if gold ever becomes worthless she can wear it as jewellry  :)

Like you would ever let that happen.  I love the 50 Pesos coins, those just ooze seksay coin.

I have one of these I acquired at melt 40 years ago and have been knucklerolling and fondling whenever I felt bad . And a AU 1924 Double eagle also for 40 years of fondling  ;)
Since my hands are too small ,I never managed a left hand to right hand and back smoothly
An half ounce might do it , but I am not about to ruin another coin >:(
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At 1000$ an ounce I found that a german forum was selling coins at melt cause the poor guys thought it was the top . I had been posting there for three years untill some newby said my gold avatar made him puke
and nobody contradicted him .So I did what I did with 22 forums before that one ; I just shut up and stopped posting ; I never say goodbye .
They have a lot of rich but stupid posters so I bought myself a mob of Roes at melt 1000 $
Easy as taking candy from children

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10 pesos Centenario de la Constitucion 1957 Mexico ( KM 57000 pieces)

I got this for melt last week  :D

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City of Trier 2009
Melt plus 5% LAST week

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The Perth Mint is learning the trade
0.5 gram coin at 7 times the price of gold
Way to go

http://www.perthmint.com.au/catalogue/2010-australian-kangaroo-gold-coin.aspx
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The French are approaching it the same way as the spanish
"half ounce" coins that are only 0.42 oz or 12 grams with a high nominal value
of 500 euro and then resell for 799 before the coin is even issued

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Rare-500-EURO-BU-Or-24K-de-2010-a-25-000ex-EPUISEE-/250626939460?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_monnaie_pi%C3%A8ceseuro&hash=item3a5a879a44
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Quote from: Tobyle on June 25, 2010, 10:58:58 PM
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/World/2010/06/26/Worlds_largest_gold_coin_auctioned_off_477519.htm

Would have been a nice addition to the collection!

I would prefer 100 one kilo coins
Less stress on the back picking it up  :)
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I'd prefer to have a smaller coin with a lovelier lady on it than that old hag queen thank you.


scottishmoney

One I never bothered to post before, but when you buy it at 60% of melt, you are giving on the lack of an attractive lass all the whiles me thinks:


Templar

I THINK THAT ALMOST ANYTHING WOULD LOOK GOOD IN GOLD-----ESPECIAALY SOLID GOLD..........

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Semi pro dealers think the gold high is close
On one of the German forums three persons have 350 pieces of  20 francs and 20 lire
for sale at melt plus 2%

here is a series of pics of 150 of them

http://picasaweb.google.com/107571430453852429547/Final?authkey=Gv1sRgCOPEku6gsKjc6AE&feat=directlink#
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Quote from: scottishmoney on June 26, 2010, 10:21:41 AM
I'd prefer to have a smaller coin with a lovelier lady on it than that old hag queen thank you.



They should freeze the image after the second portrait if they insist on royal heads on the coin . But yes La maja desnuda is fabulous .
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